With all the talk of #Signal and #distributed #IM lately, I thought I'd go a step further: here's a roundup of secure off-the-grid messengers: https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10205-roundup-of-secure-messengers-with-off-the-grid-capabilities-distributed-mesh-messengers These all use strong #encryption, provide #privacy, and can be used without any Internet connection at all.
#briar is an interesting hybrid; while it uses #Bluetooth instead of longer-range #LoRa, it doesn't need any extra hardware and can route IMs over #Tor, #Bluetooth, or local #Wifi (even w/o Internet). @briar
@jgoerzen thank you. There is interest in adding support for #LoRa, even so it is in this moment not actively worked on it. You find a git issue about that here: https://code.briarproject.org/briar/briar/-/issues/1742
@KolokokoBird @briar The eternal problem, yes. To be sure, none of these have the polish of Signal (which has integrated video calling, photo attachments, etc) so getting non-techies to use them day-to-day may be a challenge.
And yet, there was a time when I was the only one I knew using Signal, and now my contact list there is full.
In any case, you could make a STRONG case for this when going to a concert, festival, campsite, etc. "Works when cell is unavailable"
@raimondaslapinskas @briar But I still think you're missing the point. Another scenario: A group of friends are camping where there is no cell signal. One of them is going in to town. That ONE person going in to town can relay messages from ALL the campers, to: 1) other people in town via Bluetooth, or 2) other people in the world via cell or Wifi. It's not just about talking to people nearby, but about being able to relay
I will stipulate that I see LOTS of people texting each other within a single classroom or house, but agree that the utility of ONLY doing that is somewhat dubious. Though in briar's case, it also supports Wifi (even without Internet) communication which increases range significantly in some cases.
one of the biggest challenges is not you (general "you" here for us techies), the techie, privacy-oriented guru. It is your family, relatives, friends, people you need communications with and all they know is how to turn on their iPhones.
I know I'm not bringing up anything new here, but I think we need to keep remembering to focus on this... somehow.
@jrss @briar You are absolutely right. It's why, despite the legit flaws people point out, I still suggest #Signal to people. Unlike #Matrix/#Element, there is no un-encrypted mode. It has secured voice and video calls. Elon Musk aside, it is reliable and works where people expect it to.
I'm excited about possibilities of these systems. None of them are ready to knock off Signal yet, but there is plenty of room for them to grow in that direction in the future.
@tallship @briar @jrss Being on a 500-char-limit instance, I had to make a thread of a reply, which is here: https://floss.social/web/statuses/105594706334159029 Thank you for the conversation!
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