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Carlton Gibson 🇪🇺

Thinking about governments requiring encryption backdoors. The UK with Apple last week. Sweden here with Signal (potentially). Etc etc.

As ever, there are arguments each way. Even if you’re pro encryption, you have to grant that.

But look around.

The pendulum is clearly swinging into the Misuse of Powers territory (to put it mildly). Anyone with even half an ounce of sense would be hitting pause on the Lets Empower the Authorities Further button. Doesn’t seem hard.

swedenherald.com/article/signa

Sweden Herald · Signal's CEO: Then We're Leaving SwedenBy TT
João S. O. Bueno

@carlton The main difference being unlike Apple's, at least Signal's clains of e2e encryption are credible.

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Carlton Gibson 🇪🇺

@gwidion That's not at all relevant to my point.

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João S. O. Bueno

@carlton
maybe it should.

Take in account you are angry there accusing governments of spying while allowing corporates just go on with all the spying they like, by simply keep from educating the nature of code from consumers, and shipping closed blobs as apps.

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Alexandre Oliva
it's not really E2E when the messages are encrypted and decrypted on a device remotely-controlled by an intermediary. you'd have to do the crypto yourself or use a separate device that was not compromised to make it credibly end-to-end. it's delusion otherwise, not anything you can count on for your own safety against powerful enemies. as always, it's about the threat model. absolutes can be misleading.

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