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@parasurv@mk.nixnet.social @maxxcan
I was thinking of VisyalCode or how it's called
It's a GUI tool used by hordes of programmers
Same goes for PyCharm
Why do they exist ?
Are M$ and Intellij stupid ?
GUI tools are a thing for programmers too
Again: just because the journey offered by Emacs was ok for you that doesn't mean it's ok in general
In fact, it's leaving a ton of people in the dust
And again I would have personally been one of those left in the Dust
@abbienormal @parasurv the people use visual code or pycham or intellij because is the first tools that they have known. For that it's a problem that the people only learn to programming with that tools.
@maxxcan @parasurv@mk.nixnet.social
No
They use them because the cognitive style of Emacs is not good for everybody
@abbienormal @parasurv I don't think so. I remember when I only use command line in unix twenty years ago. The others programmers say me that I was used a old and difficult tools. Now most sysadmins have realized that the command line is better to work with. Even Microsoft have command line Unix in Windows 10 and announced as a major breakthrough
@maxxcan @parasurv@mk.nixnet.social
you are a professional among professionals
you used CL tools 20 years ago and you observe professional syadmins
we're obvioulsy not talking about the same target
GUI tools like VisualCode and PyCharm have a reason to exist
it's not only marketing
@abbienormal @parasurv it's not marketing, is a real problem in the high school and school in general. I recommed you to read this article about Chromebooks https://clarissalittler.github.io/2019/12/26/chromebooks.html
@maxxcan @parasurv@mk.nixnet.social
you seem not ready to accept that GUI tools can introduce naive people to IT
it's not only about education
it's about human nature
many humans find the cognitive style of GNU tools impractical
it's not their fault, as you seem to assume
@abbienormal @parasurv in any case, in a few years visual code will be out of fashion and Emacs will follow, just as it has happened with Atom or Sublime.
@maxxcan @parasurv@mk.nixnet.social
Emacs (and free software tool in general) is a niche tool and it's leaving a lot of people out
if that's ok with you, it's not with me
@abbienormal @parasurv I don't think that all is for all people. A bricklayer does not need Emacs