Hey, fedi! I’m gonna hold a 10-minute talk at work about website bloat. How do *you* measure bloat? Is it the number of kB loaded? The speed of rendering? The number of calls made? The amount of JS loaded/used? The image:text ratio? Something else?
I’ve looked at webbloatscore.com as a starting point, and the oldie but goldie Motherfucking Website. Any other fun or interesting resources you’d like to point me to?
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I held my presentation today, and I decided to do a more structured write-up on my blog: https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/website-bloat.html
Thank you all so much for your input!
@tinyrabbit Speed of rendering / usage is the only thing that matters. Just make sure you're testing at different Internet speeds.
@tinyrabbit number of third party SaaS / adtech / spyware things loaded is probably the thing i rely on most. watching the little counters tick up for all my adblock / privacy plugins is a pretty good index to how terrible an experience a site is going to be overall.
@tinyrabbit For me the term "bloat" suggests that it is not about absolute metrics (speed, size, response time), but about how much better it could reasonably easy be.
@downey @tinyrabbit BTW, shift-ESC in #UngoogledChromium gives you a task manager which shows the RAM & CPU consumption. When a tab is using over 100mb (which is quite often) I ask myself if I can live w/out that tab. I wish tabs that hit over 100mb would light up red, so I don't have to manually check the task manager. When things go bad, it's when I didn't think to have a task manager running.
@tinyrabbit I generally go on bytes over the wire for the initial load - enough to fail most sites these days
@tinyrabbit I'm fairly flexible but generally I'd expect things to load in <500k (compressed) for a fairly boring page of content
Of course I'd expect basic landing pages to be much less and it's reasonable for "web apps" to be bigger
The problem of course is even filtering out images your average “news” site fails
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