@omgubuntu i would say the pinephone, because the price matches my expectation. the librem 5 is far too overpriced.
@omgubuntu Couldn't buy any of these two.
@omgubuntu pinephone seems quite interesting, will definitely check it out when i finally need to replace my current model.
librem is kind of an asshole and has been doing some very shady shit recently. also that pricetag is ludicrous
@omgubuntu Get back to me when they have 1080p screens.
@omgubuntu PinePhone 100%.
@omgubuntu pinephone. seem more honest than purism. price is better.
phones are phones, not status symbols.
@omgubuntu non of them run AOSP, or?
@Vamp898 In theory, there's nothing preventing an AOSP build. Replicant support is being worked on, which is also Android-based.
@omgubuntu hmmm I only use my phone to run Android Apps, so as long there is no official support for AOSP, I'll keep my Pixel
Both! But I've pre-ordered the librem so probably slightly more excited about it.
There is a high possibility of pine64 offering upgrade kits eventually which would bump the specs of the phone and allow you to reuse the shell/display (the original pinebook for example is likely to get upgrade kits). I doubt we'll see any changes to the screen or casing for a few years though, due to the high cost of the molds and the amount of money they spent on testing/research.
Librem 5, if it ever properly becomes available!
@omgubuntu Pinephone, for now. Maybe a librem 5 in the future when they get the 14nm CPU die bump.
I'm highly excited for brave heart. Looking forward to getting a pinetime eventually too!
The best was those I can install innany device like Lineageos, I would like choose hardware I want like Linux for desktop.
@omgubuntu the one which works better? Seriously, HW power means nothing if SW doesn't work well, the comparison as it is shown doesn't make much sense Imho...
@omgubuntu My smartphone (Motorola Moto G2) runs with SailfishOS. :) It is enough for me and I bought it for ~80€ nearly 3 years ago (Ebay). Software is still up to date.
So the pine phone is only WiFi? No 4g? Can these phones run Android apps like Waze?
@yisraeldov All phones have cellular capabilities, including 4G, but specific bands etc vary between the modems.
@omgubuntu Thanks, what about using android apps?
I won't buy either of them, but if I would have to decide, I would take the Pinephone.
I don't think running a classical Linux distro on a phone is a good idea. Android matured over 10 years and should be used as a basis for a mobile operating system. Why reinventing the wheel. Think about all the apps that need to be recreated for phones.
@omgubuntu If only there was some middle option for ~ $250. Librem is too expensive, PinePhone cameras are too low-end.
@emzo @omgubuntu I don't know of the modularity of the PinePhone and the hw-switch but camera modules are often very easy to swap. Just click in place like lego. So there is a high likelihood of an upgrade possibility there.
My only issue is the screen and that I need some APKs for banking e.t.c.. Which could be solved by an official SailfishOS support.
The Jolla with SailfishOS is/was more competent than the Ubuntu Phone and also successful. I have one although I can not use it as my main any longer. It is from 2013.
Right now I lack the cash but will get a "Linux phone" again as soon as I can.
@emzo @omgubuntu Yeah, it is really good and covered all the needs I had. Sadly the Android support wasn't updated for my device (which is not strange because of it's age). I used it happily for 6 years and it had sw-support all that time. It still has but not the android-support. I had to get an android device earlier this year as I need it for banking app.
Other versions of SailfishOS has newer support for Android though (8.1). Like for the Sony Xperia XA2.
@omgubuntu I wish both had an option for an LCD with more pixels; a lot more pixels.
@omgubuntu I'm honestly more excited for the Librem 4.
@omgubuntu the one that supports Ubuntu Touch best.
@omgubuntu Both have only 720p display :-(
@omgubuntu sincerely? The specs of the pinephone are more than enough for my daily use. The pricetag is a bonus.
@omgubuntu probably the PinePhone, because I'm broke 😂😂
@omgubuntu While the PinePhone has a very competitve price, it solely relies on the ecosystem of volunteers and developers to build software for it. This will severely affect how easy it will be to use for average users. While the Librem 5 appears to be overpriced, they do far more than provide a piece of hardware and is more oriented towards the consumer market. #librem5 #privacy4everyone
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