My is here! Really nice packaging and build quality. The switches seem fine. Thanks @technomancy for the design and @obra and crew for all the effort going into producing and shipping these!

cc @mkb

@technomancy @obra @mkb So far the weirdest thing apart from the column instead of row alignment is that Enter is at the bottom right corner.

Typed on my Atreus with reasonably few corrections!

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@michel_slm @obra @mkb yeah it takes some getting used to for sure. in many programs (including anything running in the terminal) you can use ctrl-m for enter, since according to ASCII they are literally the same thing. also works with ctrl-i for tab.

@technomancy (a) why did they choose those keys, (b) how am I supposed to remember these shortcuts? Do we have to call it the eMter key now? Do we use tabii for whitespace?

@skyfaller it's actually really interesting; it has to do with the fact that back in the day the control, meta, and shift keys literally masked out bits from the byte of the ASCII character being sent:

and that's why "A" and "a" only differ by a single bit, because the shift key masked the second bit, turning 01100001 -> 01000001

I don't know why "M" maps to enter and "I" maps to tab; I imagine it had to do with the ordering of the control codes being somewhat arbitrary

I thought I replied but apparently I forgot to send - thanks @skyfaller for asking what I was wondering about, and @technomancy for the fascinating backstory

@michel_slm @skyfaller I actually have it remapped in my window manager so that no matter what program is in focus, C-m will send an enter keycode and C-i sends tab. it's nice to have the consistency.

@michel_slm I'm so impatient, mine should arrive tomorrow. I'll post a pic too :)

@michel_slm wow, is that a Thinkpad laptop, Salim? What's your experience in using it so far with Fedora?

@ademalsasa yup, it's a T490s - we have the T series in our standard hardware catalog at work, though we normally buy them in black so this is a one-off silver evaluation unit (trust me, just get black).

Works great with Fedora, no issue on all Fedora releases I tried since 30 or so all the way to 33 beta.

@michel_slm very very nice review, Salim. Thank you so much.

I am currently purchasing T430 as I always am curious about Thinkpad. Do you have experiences or stories about T430? Thanks once again.

@ademalsasa there's a gap in my ThinkPad history between T61 and T470 unfortunately. Check the Arch wiki, normally all the quirks are documented there

@michel_slm thanks, wonderful advice! I also looked at Arch Wiki and ThinkWiki while purchasing Thinkpad few days ago (you know, from Bukalapak).

@ademalsasa @michel_slm I have a T420s and have never had any issues at all running void. thinkpads are pefect for linux imo :)


Thank you for the design and all the work you put in this beauty
@technomancy and thanks to @obra and the team of #keyboardio for bringing us another round of #Atreus2!

Mine arrived yesterday (see attachement, with friend) and I'm amazed I was able to mostly type on it normally. The included sheet with layout is most useful!

There's going to be some learning still and maybe some firmware tweaking to fit BÉPO in, as well as some thinking and replacing of shortcuts. Exciting times!

@samae @technomancy @obra having tried a friend's grid keyboard, I also find the column orientation of Atreus surprisingly easy to pick up!

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