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Interesting. Only 3 people out of around 100 in the devroom have seen the documentary "Revolution OS". Underscores my recent concerns that current people aren't very familiar with the movement's collective history.

youtu.be/jw8K460vx1c

@downey A pity the film is on Youtube, a #google (Alphabet) entity, which avoids paying taxes!

@downey The film is available on vimeo.com/10415935 which I would have thought was a better alternative. Also Bill Gates, does not admit in his letter, that he and Steve Jobs stole Rank Xerox code, to develop their own.

@downey @patricksudlow There's a lot of big money that doesn't care for the narrative of copyleft and end-user freedom.

@downey @superruserr Speaking as someone who has done dives into F/LOSS history, but has yet to get around to watching that movie, I take issue with the metric?

Like, RevOS came out in 2001.
Open Letter To Hobbyists was 1978, GNU was 1983, Linux was 1991.

These people were are FOSDEM /2019/.

Even simply chronologically -- about HALF of the movement's history HAPPENED AFTER the movie came out!
WAY MORE, weighting by people involved or work done or societal impact!

@downey @superruserr TiVOization? Community Governance issues? Mass education efforts? Docker and cloud VMs and IoT cementing Linux in the dev usage? Android and the legal, software, and norms barriers to end-users benefit, and Google's Fucshia project to undo even any potential gains from that?

All those happened/is happening AFTER RevolutionOS, and it doesn't even see them coming.

@downey @superruserr This movement's history is in the CLOSE IMPERFECT TENSE, and "dust off a VHS player and slot in this relic" isn't gonna do JACK to raise awareness or interest in the historical issues of important to Now or the Near Future.

Let RevolutionOS retire in triumph to museums and back-shelves.
We don't need historical ARTIFACTS, we need HISTORIANS.

@gaditb @superruserr Thanks for the obvious points. No historian would ever say a work of history be shelved because it wasn't published recently. Older works need not be lost to time because they bring a point-in-time recency perspective that shouldn't be lost. Of course, history needs to be continually studied and documented which hasn't happened much lately. That's why there are increasing calls for more works like this; Open Sources v3 book underway, etc.

@downey @superruserr Sorry, you're right, I got carried away.

But RevolutionOS isn't much of a work of history -- most of its issues are recent or ongoing, and everything is done with and around the personalities intimately involved with LEADING the movements, none of whom are able to divorce from that to engage with the history in-itself.
In the absense of anything else, sure, maybe it's useful with a bunch else, but.

@downey @remotenemesis You don’t need to watch *a* specific documentary to know about the history, you know? ;)

@downey @remotenemesis Oh, and also, there’s more to open source than just GNU. There’s also BSD.

@downey @remotenemesis You can read up on a lot of it. There’s also quite a few documentaries from 15 years ago - of which I can obviously no longer remember the name by now. But the point is that there is more than one way to learn about history, and it does not need to be that particular documentary ;)

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