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@ariadne @Gottox i don't really care what alpine ends up doing, as that's their choice and not ours; and it's not even like you're wrong wrt "systemd-free" projects ignoring what people want in practice (if anything that's one of *the* reasons this project was started and i've been saying that exact thing for years) but the way you say it sounds like a massive fuck you to anybody actually trying to make a real difference and i don't approve of that, it's toxic as hell