How many times a day you use a search engine (please RT).

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Based on how search engines work (keep the index fresh, store the data to be queried) a pay-per-use approach is not sustainable

How much are you willing to pay for subscription for a search engine per month per person ?

(see the previous pool)

Given a search engine that is privacy respecting that you can self-host on your own hardware.

How much are you ready to spend on a home server upfront that will last 3 to 5 years and can support your whole family and friends:

I should have started with this:

I am working on a search engine . Unlike a todoapp, it requires more hardware, having an idea of how much people are willing to spend upfront or by subscription renting a server will help me figure what kind of hardware I need to acquire to be able to test the algorithms.

Thanks for you cooperation! (and please boost!)

@amirouche
I think your low numbers are too high, both for hardware and subscription.
I pay less than 10 bucks for mobile Internet. Yet, somehow, the search engines and all the ad-loaded pages (plus all the hundreds of layers of ad maf... industry) make a living from eating my bandwidth.
It should be 1€. 3 max.

@danielst

Some people are paying for those ads, hence the cost to run those search engines.

@amirouche Whoa, even 10€ seems like a lot of money to pay per month per person for a search engine. 5€ might be more reasonable...
@amirouche Pay-per-search might also be reasonable for those who don't do enough searching to justify a monthly subscription. Something like 0.05€ per search would give someone 100 searches before a monthly 5€ subscription becomes worth it.

@jbauer

Thanks to chime in!

Pay-per-search does not work as the only revenue to cover infrastructure because you need to pay for hosting / renting anyway so that it is available when someone needs it.

@jbauer

You made me remember that the server sits idle most of the day: if they are 5 persons doing 100 queries per day where each query takes less than 1 second, the server will be fully busy, all cpu core maxed out, 500 seconds per day that means there is still 85900 seconds available (~23.86 hours) on all CPU cores...

What if the server provides more "services" or "applications" like ? Would 10€ per month per users makes sense?

ref: nextcloud.com/pricing/

@amirouche In that sense you'd be providing a whole cloud service to your users. You'd be creating a subscription-based Google-like ecosystem which is a different product than simply providing a search engine to your users. It might be worth 10€+ to users who want a complete managed Google alternative. However, if all somebody wants is a good search engine, they'd get a whole cloud service offering that they probably don't want or care about so they probably won't bother with it.

Maybe a tiered subscription scheme would be useful? Something like: people can pay 5€ for search and maybe 5€ more for cloud services and 5€ more for extra storage space or something.

@jbauer

Having too much features is is not good nor easy.

We are gathering on irc at freenode the channel if you want to further discuss the matter.

@jbauer

The features only of the search engine part: etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/babel

At that does not include taking into account user feedback to be able to program the crawl from the search e.g. via a feed reader.

Also it does not mention interop between search engines which we dive in etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/peace

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