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@carlozancanaro

i'm asking how i can either

1. load the package
2. load the system defined in the .asd
or
3. (load) an arbitrary file

because the last i remember trying it a while back, i don't think even the last one was working on this computer.
i will give it another try though

@a_breakin_glass @alcinnz are there some efforts around creating federated videoconferencing that would pool resources ? Servers that are live and known about in the network, and when a conference is created, the server used is picked depending on availability and expected load...

@enkiv2 @byron @jauntywunderkind420

It's pretty dizzying when you think about the sheer computing power in just an ordinary laptop today.

I have access to a vast collection of books, photos, videos. But organizing that collection is hard, and doing meaningful and useful things with it is even harder.

Websites are pretty terrible infrastructure for spinning up new community groups. It would be great if we could get to 'Facebook group' level of 'just make something happen'. Without the spam.

@enkiv2 @byron @jauntywunderkind420

I really hope this is true! I've always *felt* it to be true, even way back in the 80s era of cassette tapes and modem BBSes. It always felt like we were the pioneers of a new underground and there was this vast potential for radical decentralisation.

but, lol, I spent all my time online downloading games, and most of my programming time making games, and not even great games. And now I don't even do much programming and what little I do seems to be harder

@byron

As soon as you admit any centralization (even so much as a client-server model), you're trapped by an inevitable logic that leads you to exactly the things we are complaining about in "big tech", & you either go all the way and become the bad guy or you fail earlier.

If you avoid that centralization, however, you've got a lot of flexibility in creating and responding to incentives. You don't need to get subsumed by capital.

@jauntywunderkind420 @natecull

@byron

If you are already centralized, there are structural incentives to double down and become even more centralized, and economies of scale are part of that.

If you are not centralized (not even federated), then none of that stuff applies. Much easier to run everything off a raspberry pi hooked up to the wifi of the coffee shop down the street than pay amazon to let you access their nightmare of overlapping security groups.

@jauntywunderkind420 @natecull

@byron

Centralization creates economies of scale that are only useful when centralizing. A little bit of duplication, properly distributed, is not noticeable to those who it is distributed to, while duplication of the whole of a network's data by some centralized owner can easily bankrupt the owner. I don't see why we should bother with this centralization at all. We have the tech to avoid it.

@jauntywunderkind420 @natecull

@byron

This isn't a 'new' phenomenon at all. It's the inevitable result of following the original 1970s script. And, you'll find people -- not even necessarily terribly technical people, but essayists and science fiction authors -- writing in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, about this script and talking about its end-game (which we are living through) because all it takes to predict it is an unwillingness to buy into the hype.

@natecull

@byron

And until that bubble collapses (which nobody really wants, because it'll take the global economy with it, because most of the economy is just gambling on futures of futures of futures of ad valuations for novelty t-shirts and other trash), the reaction is that everybody in that industry doubles-down and makes promises about how they'll get two tenths of one percent more likelihood of a sale from three gigs more targeting data per person.

@natecull

@byron

And that basically means that it's becoming harder to ignore the gap between theory and practice: you have enormous amounts of computing power and enormous amounts of data and you still can't make advertising work reliably.

@natecull

@byron
There's no qualitative change happening in, say, ad targeting. Ad targeting works exactly the same way it did in 1995 (and exactly the same way folks were expecting it to eventually start working in the 70s, when computers & statistics were first being applied to the problem).

There's a quantitative change happening, which is that we reached the physics-theoretic peak of speed for integrated circuits 15 years ago, & we're working on getting everybody on the grid.

@natecull

@byron
I don't really buy this. Technological change has slowed down substantially since its peak in the 70s (to the point that most of what we, as individuals and even as early-adopters, run into as 'new' technology' is really 70s tech that finally became profitable), & smaller groups had bigger shifts in tech for decades.

We *are* seeing the effects of certain tech at a larger scale than before, but mostly, we're seeing the effects of capital-amplifiers.

@natecull

@natecull

Few of the things users can do today with book/photo/&c collections have much impact on the web/online. We have to keep waiting for apps to begin to have capabilities, to let them ingest our media for us. And that speaks of a very poor ecosystem.

@enkiv2 @byron

Tried to install bitwarden-cli on my pinephone... sat installing (compiling? transpiling? idk cause its fucking javascript???) for 10 minutes then it failed cause it tired to fetch an x86 node binary.... I don't understand why a nodejs app needs a particular nodejs binary when node and nvm are already installed on my system.......................

@MadestMadness @alcinnz I've been lucky with the two Jitsi meetings I set up (both 1:1s), but on the other hand we had the @fedora social hour moved back from Jitsi to BlueJeans due to scaling issues 😕. But in small group settings name recognition is definitely the pressing issue.

Going to try and see if BBB would work for larger groups

@alcinnz the worst part of jitsi meet is that I confuse it with the xmpp client

@alcinnz Seriously, though. Like, I suggest it, and people assume it's going to be a pulling teeth experience if it doesn't have the force of a massive advertising budget to ensure they've already heard of it.

Like, I tell people I send them a link, and they're like "where do I go to download and sign up?". No, we don't do that here 😛

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