I've just been reminded: I often forgot the constraints most people feel (and work around) with existing web hosting services! By which I include Medium and YouTube.

Running my own homeserver really illustrates to me how trivial all these webservices really are. They're very much pretty facades upon almost nothing!

Silicon Valley has done nothing to deserve your worship.

@alcinnz I agree, what they have though is lots of money that buys a lot of hardware that makes possible millions of connections per second, which has modified guests expectations, this is: if guests would modify expectations (like response time) we could make servers that accept infinite connections in home servers.
On the other hand user to user interaction would make this irrelevant

@alcinnz Well... point being however: Silicon Valley _has_ done two important things: (a) It has made all these services easily available to people who don't know what a "home server" could possibly be, how to set one up, let alone how to run one on 24x7 operations, late at night as well as on Christmas Eve or your girlfriends birthday, and doesn't depend upon you and only you to run well. And (b): A lot of the small bits and pieces - node.js, tons of frontend magic, runtime environments ...

@z428 Fair enough: The prettiness and system administration are important!

But I'll still note how much of their services can be recreated with nothing more than a static webserver. And how little effort that takes me.

@alcinnz Yes, but it requires some experience, and some fiddling especially if you want that thing to be publicly available on a permanent basis. I'd still fancy solutions such as #ipfs and #dat all along with affordable, low-energy "home use appliances" that can just be added to the network by J. Doe and have the robustness of, say, a fridge or a coffee maker - to go weeks, months, years without maintenance or hardware replacement. That would be a real step ahead for digital autonomy. 🙂

@z428 Yes, that is my ideal as well!

I'd more than gladly accept such contributions to HURL!

P.S. I've just accepted a contribution to it's build file & released a new update just for that.

@alcinnz Hmmm, seems I missed that but who or what is HURL? 🙂

@z428 It's the URL dispatcher for my browser engines "Rhapsode" & (sometime soon) "Haphaestus".

@z428 @alcinnz see also, no servers or third party services:

Example: I'm building a proof of concept git portal that will run entirely in the browser, so can be served from p2p and other static hosting, targeted at Safe but equally via IPFS or DAT:

@alcinnz ... like docker, and even a ton of code and functionality added to the Linux kernel and userland systems - have been either fully implemented or massively funded by Silicon Valley money. That's a bad starting point for FLOSS in some ways. 😉

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