I guess I wanted to prove to myself that it's possible to write a webapp that isn't slow and bloated and terrible and all the things that people say about the web these days.
If I have one regret (or two) with Pinafore, it's that
1) the animations could be a lot nicer, and
2) the offline support could be a lot better.
All the APIs are there. It could have gorgeous intra-page animations and flawless offline support, just like a native app. I just didn't manage to do it. (yet)
The web is capable of so much more than people are doing with it nowadays. A lot of the problems are business incentives (ads, trackers, third-party junk) and cargo cult (bloated toolchains, bloated deps, a main thread that doesn't scale).
We're waiting for the next Ajax/Web2.0/whatever revolution where somebody comes up with a bold new design that's better than everything that came before.
Basically I think we should be writing our pages more declaratively (more like HTML & CSS, less like JS) so browsers can better protect privacy/security and render them to different mediums.
The truth is, we've built an application delivery mechanism that can run client-side code in a sandbox that is secure and performant enough that most web users aren't afraid to click links. That's pretty amazing. We should double down on this system, not replace it with something hypothetical and untested.
@nolan @alcinnz @strypey a bit of both. I live on the edge of security and it’s a dark dangerous place there. Permitting arbitrary code to run on my devices is only going to get worse. Where does it end - a full vm per webpage?
Most sites I use today try to pull in code from 20+ other systems and it’s a disaster. J have zero trust and faith in this model, but I do love web delivered apps. Things like fido2 are examples where js totally a plus. The rest?
But feel free to defend the status quo as it collapses under it's own weight.
I really don't think the sacrifices for my way is too much: a large fraction of the web will still survive, and most (but not all) of the rest can theoretically be recreated to deliver the same UX.
> most web users aren't afraid to click links.
If they're not running something like #NoScript, there are good reasons they should be. Most aren't afraid to use HTML in email either, or install apps from untrusted sources on the same devices they use for banking etc. There are plenty of things uneducated users haven't been taught the dangers of doing. This seems like an odd criteria for evaluating engineering decisions about future technologies.
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