@alcinnz I'm not sure who the "standards community" are... here in NZ? People who should know better (like folks in gov't who work with procurement)? I've seen most send out fauxpen-standard (OOXML) docs, mostly without ever even considering/being conscious of what they're doing. My goal is to help them feel uneasy about it :)
@lightweight I've seen it in Australia.
I guess my issue with this is figuring out what's the most appropriate time without appearing difficult.
@alcinnz yes, I exercise restraint sometimes, but it's usually with people I don't feel are savvy enough to understand my invective... and that's damning enough in itself.
@lightweight I don't think it'd work for either of you given your professions but I do my part by feigning naivety of a sorts, and putting on my best "old lady paying for groceries with 1000 coupons and a personal cheque" and asking why they're sending me something that needs me to buy this software if i buy it can i send them the invoice how soon will they reimburse me can they send me it in this free format or maybe as a txt? This only works with faceless bureaucracies, not friends @alcinnz
@emsenn @alcinnz nice one - will keep that up my sleeve - the complicating factor here is that it's not a question of expense... it's the principle of the thing (and the fact that I run Linux, for which Microsoft, despite their oft professed "love" has not yet made MSFT Office available... so it's not available at any cost - I hope it goes without saying I'd never run Windows ;) )
@lightweight Sometimes, the only thing you can do is get someone to feel pressure to change their mind, not pressure to consider their opinion, if that makes sense. A lot of people don't care about principles, and so you'd have to like, deconstruct and break down a lot of their beliefs to figure out why, and then rebuild them to "and that's why an open-source thing instead!"
Sometimes you can just whine and say "do it my way," and know your way is better. @alcinnz
@lightweight Now of course, if you think someone would reconsider their opinion, and you've got the energy to give it a shot, then please, do! I try to when I have the energy; it's an important part of what is, frankly, a culture war that needs to be fought on every front we can figure out. @alcinnz
@lightweight I guess what I'm saying is, sometimes, you shouldn't avoid it, and it's the right thing to do - it might be the /only/ thing you can do, short of ignoring the problem with them completely, and - I don't know you so this isn't a judgement of you but - that's always felt even more disrespectful than intentionally stirring a negative emotion in someone. @alcinnz
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