@puffinux @jeffcliff As if TBL hadn't already lost enough credibility.

This isn't going to help anyone who needs help. Dissidents will still be persecuted. Companies will still conduct surveillance on their users in unethical and non-consenting ways. They will also continue to ignore data protection rules and construct search engines designed to enable government censorship and spying.

Also companies like Cloudflare are a joke and they have zero credibility with anyone who knows how the internet works.

After decades of trying to improve rights in the digital space we know what kinds of things work. Licenses, if properly vetted by copyright lawyers, are known to work. Encryption, if appropriately implemented and audited, works. Systems designed to be "offline first" and go under the radar of most other things are known to provide some level of protections to people who need it.

Vague pledges have never worked. Companies and governments routinely break their promises and think nothing of it.

@bob @puffinux @jeffcliff Wow that contract doesn't say much more than "governments and companies will work together to protect privacy and ensure everyone can get online. Oh and we need strong public discourse."

I can't see anyone disagreeing with that. The question is how do people interpret it?

@bob @puffinux @jeffcliff I'd much quicker sign @aral 's Indie Manifesto. It's much more clear by what is meant by "privacy" and how to achieve it.

@alcinnz @aral @jeffcliff @puffinux This is what I mean by "vague". There's so much room for manoevre that it could be interpreted in a wide variety of ways.

@alcinnz @bob @puffinux @jeffcliff idk, having spent the last couple of years as a target of the "strong public discourse", I'm not a huge fan of how it has become a shield for bigotry and hatred

@rey @bob @puffinux @jeffcliff If I know what you're referring to, let me assure you those days leave no one feeling good. And I think I've learnt how best to cope.

@alcinnz only thing I go to Facebook for nowadays is to verify that Taco Tuesday is still happening at the pub

@alcinnz Facebook is not a particularly great place for political discourse, but that's pretty much all it has become

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