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GTK

It seems that a few people are being misinformed about the deprecation of the X11 backend, usually because they read screeds from well-known bad faith actors.

The X11 backend being deprecated mainly means that we're not going to spend time implementing new features, like dmabuf, graphics offloading, or Vulkan support. X11 support will still exist until GTK4 is EOL, which will happen once GTK *6* is released. We're talking about a 20 years horizon, at this point…

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Maksym Hazevych

@GTK and that's probably what you should have publicly communicated from the beginning, instead of acting like it is not a big deal.

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GTK

@mks_h it's how deprecations have always worked. It's perfectly fine not to know things: people can always ask.

Of course, this does not deter people with an axe to grind against the project.

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Maksym Hazevych

@GTK if you don't communicate, people will not be able to tell apart what's what. You have to battle misinformation, upfront when possible. And people have warned you about this too! You're lucky there are media outlets who responsibly explained the nuance for you.

You don't have to be a fortune teller to tell that many non-programmers would misinterpret the news out of context, and yet you left the context buried in a commit message. Get off the high horse.

GTK

@mks_h the issue is that "news" outlets monitor the issue tracker, and they link specific merge requests; we don't do communication management on the commit logs: we have a blog for that, which we used to explain what the deprecation means. This toot was in response to comments on social media from people who were misled.

Of course, it seems you are one of those people who enjoy ragging on the project whatever we do, so there's not much of a purpose in explaining things.

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Maksym Hazevych

@GTK I actually don't enjoy doing that. Sorry, I guess I was too harsh in my comment. You did kind of communicate it, and of course you'd still receive enough misinformation from some bad actors whatever you did. I just wish you'd take this more seriously, and reassure people upfront. This would not eliminate misinformation, but it would make it more obvious and less effective. But I guess this isn't that big of a deal in the end. Again, sorry for being too harsh.

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